Feminism(s), Secularism, and Religions: Encounter Interview with Jadaliyya Co-Editor Maya Mikdashi and Other Scholars/Activsts

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Feminism(s), Secularism, and Religions: Encounter Interview with Jadaliyya Co-Editor Maya Mikdashi and Other Scholars/Activsts

By : Jadaliyya Reports

The following episode of Encounter (hosted by David Rutlege) features interviews with Jadaliyya Co-Editor Maya Mikdashi, as well as Leila Ahmed, Ellen Armour, Jean Bethke Elshtain, Lisa Isherwood, and Ratna Osman--all of whom are feminist professors and/or activists. In "Beyond the Boundaries," they critically discuss the relationships between feminism(s) and Islam and feminism(s) and Christianity, in addition to discussing events such as the Egyptian and US presidential elections, their potential impact on women`s rights in those countries, and the continuing sexual assaults at and around Tahrir Square. The impetus behind this program is to critically discuss the discourse on women`s rights in the Islamic and Arab worlds and the ways that secularism and religion are often distinguished through discourses on gender. The show was originally broadcast on Austalia`s ABC Radio on 2 February 2013.

 

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While this conversation revolves around literary analysis of Ottoman texts of a specific genre and a specific issue, the discussion has implications for all historians and scholars dealing with old texts. Kuru stresses the importance of properly studying the context that produced these texts before haphazardly perusing and mining them for material that seems to be about an issue that concerns us today, in this case sexuality. This painstaking task is one that unites disparate disciplines dealing with a common set of source material and subject of analysis in their quest for a more proper understanding of the text.

Bios of Discussants

Chris Gratien is the editor and co-host of Ottoman History Podcast and a doctoral candidate in the Department of History at Georgetown University researching the social environmental history of Ottoman Anatolia and Syria.

Selim Kuru is a Professor of Ottoman and Turkish studies at University of Washington in Seattle.

Oscar Aguirre-Mandujano is a doctoral candidate at University of Washington in Seattle studying Ottoman history and literature.


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